to be polarizing, christie and obama working together with a single focus, i think it actually encourages people about politics, about government, and about these two individuals. because it does take leaders, it does take individuals, full credit to the two men involved. >> indeed. i would say a hearty amen to that. eugene, the president has been pretty evenhanded in the way he's responded to this storm. he tells fema, no bureaucracy, no red tape. he tells the governors to call him directly if they're not getting the help they need. he's not delegating responsibility, he is taking it, isn't he? >> he is. and that's what you would want a president to do in this sort of situation. it's, frankly, what george w. bush did not do in hurricane katrina and we saw the result as well as the political price. so, i think it's fascinating, for people to watch, as chris christie, as pugnacious as he is, on the republican side, for republican ideas and values, to see where that ends for him. to see him say, essentially, but, yes, there is a big role for government in our society, and thank god we have it. >>